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History of the United Kennel Club and the ADBA

Post by eamo s on Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:25 pm

The modern American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) can trace its roots back to England and the early 19th century. Crosses between “bully” type dogs and terriers eventually produced the modern APBT. Although not recognized as a “breed” and much smaller than the modern APBT, the early “bulldogs” were used as working dogs, controlling unruly bulls for butchers as well as farmers.

These “bulldogs” resembled, phenotypically, the modern APBT but were considerably smaller, weighing in at 15-30lbs. The courage and tenacity that made these dogs good at corralling dangerous bulls made them great at the blood sport of bull baiting.

The year 1835 saw the end of deadly bull baiting (countless thousands of dogs lost their lives to this “sport”) and the emergence of an even more sinister blood sport - dog fighting.

To understand the American Pit Bull Terrier, it is imperative to understand the breed’s fighting origins.

The lower class had used blood sports as an outlet for their frustration and aggression towards the monarchy - pit fighting was, in essence, an outcry and an outlet for that aggression. Dogs were bred to be courageous, utterly devoid of pain sensations (they, no doubt, felt pain but were bred and encouraged not to express that pain), tenacious and determined.

A quality that was never bred into them was human aggression. Human “aggressive” (aggression may not be the most appropriate term, it is more likely that these dogs simply had a lower bite threshold) dogs were undesirable as these dogs required extensive handling prior and during their fights - most of theses dogs were also family pets so no human “aggression” was ever tolerated.

Dogs that exhibited human “aggression” were typically killed, meaning that only human friendly lines were perpetuated and desired. It is highly unlikely, however, that these culled dogs were naturally more aggressive towards humans than their bred counterparts but their bite threshold may have been much lower meaning that it did not take much for them to turn around and bite their handler. Animals were bred for an increased bite threshold, as far as humans and only humans were concerned, which decreased the likelihood of humans becoming victims of dog bites.

In 1898, Chauncy Bennet formed the UKC, a breed registry aimed solely at the registration and acceptance of pitbulls. The AKC had wanted nothing to do with pitbulls, so Bennet sought to create an organization that would represent the breed as performance dogs. Mr. Bennet added “American” and initially dropped “Pit” from the APBT’s name but public outcry let to “Pit” being added back to the name - thus the American Pit Bull Terrier.

For a pitbull to be accepted into the UKC the dog had to have won three fights - a requirement that was later dropped. Another registry that was started solely for APBT’s, the American Dog Breeders Association was born in 1909. The ADBA was started by Guy McCord who was a close friend of one of the founding fathers of the modern APBT, John P. Colby. The ADBA was created to test the performance quality of a APBT without actual pit fighting; the ADBA’s main focus was on weight pulling competitions with a spattering of conformation shows.

The AKC decided to register Pit Bulls but under a different name - the Staffordshire Terrier, which was later changed to the American Staffordshire Terrier in 1972, or AST. Up until 1936, Pit Bulls and AST’s were physically identical. After 1936, AST’s were bred solely for conformation and their breed requirements became much more stringent. APBT’s were being bred for both performance (fighting) as well as conformation shows and the breed’s standard became much more lenient. The AST’s, phenotypically, became “flashier” with blockier heads, larger chests and a thicker jaw while the APBT’s varied phenotypically from lanky to stocky. Although the phenotypic expression varied in the APBT, relative weight, size and proportion remained constant and dogs over 60lbs were rarely seen. Both AST’s and APBT’s were bred to be exceptionally sturdy and extremely human friendly, not to mention athletic, courageous, and tenacious.





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Post by celticpitbulls on Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:45 pm

great post eamo :D
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Re: History of the United Kennel Club and the ADBA

Post by eamo s on Sat Apr 17, 2010 10:34 pm

Tanx Lil :D
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Re: History of the United Kennel Club and the ADBA

Post by Harry on Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:41 am

Thats class, it explains what they're like perfectly
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Re: History of the United Kennel Club and the ADBA

Post by eamo s on Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:26 pm

It gives our members a better knowledge of the the breed and the Kennel club.
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Re: History of the United Kennel Club and the ADBA

Post by kasovitz on Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:35 am

ok and what is different in Ireland's Pit Bull Terrier if you looking for ast ?

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Post by pitties rule on Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:31 am

kasovitz wrote:ok and what is different in Ireland's Pit Bull Terrier if you looking for ast ?

there is no irish pitbull terrier.... APBT’s were being bred for both performance (fighting) as well as conformation shows and the breed’s standard became much more lenient. The AST’s, phenotypically, became “flashier” with blockier heads, larger chests and a thicker jaw while the APBT’s varied phenotypically from lanky to stocky. Although the phenotypic expression varied in the APBT, relative weight, size and proportion remained constant and dogs over 60lbs were rarely seen. Both AST’s and APBT’s were bred to be exceptionally sturdy and extremely human friendly, not to mention athletic, courageous, and tenacious.
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Post by slattery9104 on Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:55 am

great post Eamo
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Re: History of the United Kennel Club and the ADBA

Post by kasovitz on Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:31 pm

for example :)
i saw only in video some bully kutta modern are this same like ast
but people speaking abouy this kind bully kutta [IMG]http://smi
some bandog are little different but looking similar and many many more
every day i going nerest owner ast and i can t say something about lines and origin beacuse this dogs havent lineage
in my counrty dog in types ast are chip but oryginal is expensive
some people dont using socialization and this is a problem with opinion
witch dog are agresive or not
good line dogs from good kennel are normal and owners haven t problems in normal live
sory my english is not perfect ................

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Post by kasovitz on Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:33 pm

http://k2bullykutta.com/w/image-viewer.htm?picts/Males/gallery1-pic14.jpg
for example this s a modern bully kutta

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Re: History of the United Kennel Club and the ADBA

Post by pitties rule on Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:50 pm

Description
The American Staffordshire Terrier has an unusual lineage in that it was bred with the fighting spirit of the bulldog and the easy-going nature of the terrier. When it was bred down in the U.S., its more aggressive features were de-emphasized into the American Staffordshire Terrier that we know today. The body remained muscular, but its frame was more well-built and agile. Its ears are docked and set almost parallel to the eyes that are dark and round. The neck is the heaviest part of the body. The short coat is typically a large percentage white with any other color; tan and white and black and white are very common.

Temperament
Aggression is a behavior that was supposedly bred out of the American Staffordshire Terrier, but in some circumstances the dog may exhibit aggressive behavior. Training is key to it learning to coexist with other dogs and how to behave within a home. Training is also beneficial for teaching the dog how to treat guests to the home. Housebreaking it may prove difficult. It will generally behave appropriately with children in the family, but should never be left alone with them because they can inadvertently cause injury to them while playing. As is common with terriers, the American Staffordshire Terrier is assertive, courageous, and loyal. It is the perfect guard dog.

Height and Weight
Height: 16-19 inchesWeight: 57-67 pounds

Health Problems
No major health conditions are associated with the American Staffordshire Terrier. Some types may develop hip dysplasia and cataracts.

Ideal Living Conditions
The American Staffordshire Terrier does not require a significant amount of space. A medium-size apartment with is fine. It is suitable for a yard with ample room for exercise.

Exercise
Terriers are well-known for their energetic personalities. The American Staffordshire SpanielтАЩs well-developed muscles will require regular exercise. It is fine with a regular walk or light jogging.

Life Expectancy
An average of 11-14 years life expectancy

Litter Size
4 puppies on average

Grooming
The American Staffordshire Terrier is low maintenance. Its coat will remain in good shape with normal brushing. A regular bathe will also keep the coat healthy.

Origin
England is well-known for its early 19th century breeding of aggressive dogs for the purpose of bull

Group
Terrier

Color
Color: Any color, but white must not cover more than 80% of the coat.
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Re: History of the United Kennel Club and the ADBA

Post by kasovitz on Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:51 pm

ok thx

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Post by Harry on Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:39 pm

APBT's and AST's are both bred from the same original stock, and the APBT is the one used most often in Sports while the AST is used much more in Shows.

the Bully Kutta is a dog from Afghanistan and places? I thought they were the fighting dogs of the middle east?
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Post by kasovitz on Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:08 pm

bully kutta is from Pakistan and India

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Post by kasovitz on Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:10 pm

in 19 th century maybe in 18 was mix molos with terriers

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Post by Harry on Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:01 pm

the Bully Kutta? what is a molos?
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before 1936 there was no staffordshire terriers, allthe first staffordshire terriers reg'ed with the akc, ware pit bullterriers not a similar dog but same dog

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Post by eamo s on Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:13 am

Im quiet aware of the Pitbull and Am staff are the same breed and the staff never existed before 1936. Alot of of them in later years where dual registered. Due to Kennel club standards the Am Staff was bred through selective breeding to meet the requirements of the AKC.
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